Hillary Clinton And The King's Daughters
The article says:
SourceHillary descends from Catharine Paulo (m. Etienne Campeau), Madeleine Plouard/Polet/Plouart (m. Jacques Viau) and Madeleine Niel (m. Etienne Charles.)
Genealogists know the most about Madeleine Niel. Etienne, her husband, came to Quebec in 1665 with the famed Carignan Regiment. Its mission was to repel Iroquois Indians who raided settlements and killed inhabitants.
This couple settled at Boucherville near Montreal and raised 12 children. They survived devastating Indian raids on their village and lived into their 80s. Etienne and Madeleine left 111 grandchildren.
Hillary descends from the Viau couple’s daughter Marguerite, who married Jaques Pilet (1703-1765), settler at Detroit, then in Canada and now in the United States.
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To: Rosemary E. Bachelor
Actually, the copyright for the genealogy of Hillary Rodham Clinton's French-Canadian Ancestry is owned by Gail Moreau-DesHarnais and Diane Sheppard and Michigan's Habitant Heritage, the Journal of the French-Canadian Heritage Society of Michigan. Their research appeared originally in the October 2007 issue of the journal and continued in the January 2008 issue. It is good that you referred to their article as a source, if only as a citation; but, having been involved in only a minor way in their research, I know the original work is theirs and they deserve more than an afterthought.
Scholarly standards require that original researchers be identified clearly and source material that is quoted be footnoted. It is unfortunate that the publication of the result of this research by the New England Historical and Genealogical Society also omitted names of the authors and publication. They do cite the authors on their web site, but this fact never made it into most of the world-wide publicity.
What a shame that writers popularizing legitimate scholarship cannot give credit where credit is due.
The other genealogies of "famous" people listed above also were done for Michigan's Habitant Heritage, in large part, especially that done for Angelina Jolie by Diane Sheppard and, years ago, Madonna's ancestry, the work of Gail Moreau-DesHarnais and René Jetté.
Suzanne Boivin Sommerville
Vice-President of the FCHSM
http://genealogy.suite101.com/topic...
Dear Suzanne,
I have referred to your article which is my only source.
I sincerely thought that I was honnest and I really can't understand why you are saying "What a shame that writers popularizing legitimate scholarship cannot give credit where credit is due."
I didn't knew that bloggers must mention the source of their source.
Best regards,
Jean-Yves Baxter
I would have thought no ones ancestry is a matter of copyright.
The very notion is ridiculous its mater of your bloodline.
An article or book might be copyrighted, but the names of people and their residences, and vital records are public records. I have been looking for a Smith line in Canada and just recently found a link thanks to the hyperlinks in an online commercial catalog of souces on Canadian provinces, one source mentioning vital records extracted from newspapers. I will credit this source with their name and web address when entering the information in a genealogy program.
If one uses information from a published source, that information is under copyright and the source for the information must be cited. Names, dates and places cannot be copyrighted, but the way that the information is presented IS. It is illegal to use material verbatim from a published work without at the very least citing the source for the material. It is even better if you have received permission from the author/editor/publisher of the work. One should follow this rule whether entering information in a genealogy program or writing a high school term paper.